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Who Is To Blame For the World's Insanity? Not The Leaders But Their Followers

by The Bethelite in

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there are 1000's of wacked out ideas on the planet.. a crazy little man with a mustache in a beer hall in munich germany in 1923 had some crazy ideas for sure....he starting with a dozen people who thought his insanity was a good idea.

in just 22 years his insanity effected the entire world with millions dead.

he duped 95 million germans alone...who thought his insanity was a good idea.. another crazy little man with a beard, started in the basement of a church in pennsylvania in the1870's.

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Another crazy little man with a beard, started in the basement of a church in Pennsylvania in the1870's. He had some crazy ideas too. He thought the world would end in 1879 and then revised this dated to 1914. A hand full of people thought this crazy guy was on to something. Fast forward 150 years and 8 1/2 million people later we find millions of people still waiting/hoping for the world it end any day. The life style of these people who believe in this form of insanity is well, beyond description.

The Bethelite

I have not read your book. Somehow, someone in your family was truly convinced. You even made the decision to become a member of the Bethel family. Everyone at Bethel was truly convinced. As wacky as the Mormon religion is, they still have millions of members. Why did you convince yourself that the wacky Jehovah's Witnesses were not wacky, but other religions were?

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If only someone had kicked my a$$.. (This is post is not for theists)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i think back on the 30+ years of bs as well as my fading almost a decade and even now being low key in person to hopefully save my nieces from the wt.

i'm a wreck in some ways.

i'm other days i'm stable however when it comes to theism i depart quickly and with anger!

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duped by theism for more them 30+ years feels.

duped : a person who is easily deceived or fooled; gullible

I only have myself to blame for the 40 years I was a Witness. Finally decided that I was miserable being a Jehovah's Witnesses. I didn't leave sooner because of family. Hated every minute of the meetings and left only when I told myself to be true to myself. Losing family and friends was a better choice than suffering being a Jehovah's Witness. Surprisingly, they leave me alone and treat me as if I was still a member.

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Why does God need to be worshipped?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the bible exhorts us to “worship the one who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—deuteronomy 4:24; revelation 14:7.. insight on the scriptures, volume 2 pp 1200-1202. worshipone of the hebrew words conveying the idea of worship (ʽa·vadhʹ) basically means “serve.” (ge 14:4; 15:13; 29:15) serving or worshiping jehovah required obedience to all of his commands, doing his will as a person exclusively devoted to him.

(ex 19:5; de 30:15-20; jos 24:14, 15) therefore, for an individual to engage in any ritual or act of devotion toward any other gods signified his abandoning true worship.—de 11:13-17; jg 3:6, 7.another hebrew term that can denote worship is hish·ta·chawahʹ, which primarily means “bow down” (ge 18:2), or do obeisance.

(see obeisance.

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pistolpete

That is something I thought all along!

How do you make the Jews God's chosen people, have God fight all your winning battles, have a powerful and all knowing God be so jealous of a measly, mortal Moses taking credit for finding water, that God does not permit him to enter the promised land, strike down and kill Ananias and Sapphira, who held back a puny amount of money? Write a man made construct YHWH in a collection of books that is still taken literal 2000 years later!

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Why does God need to be worshipped?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the bible exhorts us to “worship the one who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—deuteronomy 4:24; revelation 14:7.. insight on the scriptures, volume 2 pp 1200-1202. worshipone of the hebrew words conveying the idea of worship (ʽa·vadhʹ) basically means “serve.” (ge 14:4; 15:13; 29:15) serving or worshiping jehovah required obedience to all of his commands, doing his will as a person exclusively devoted to him.

(ex 19:5; de 30:15-20; jos 24:14, 15) therefore, for an individual to engage in any ritual or act of devotion toward any other gods signified his abandoning true worship.—de 11:13-17; jg 3:6, 7.another hebrew term that can denote worship is hish·ta·chawahʹ, which primarily means “bow down” (ge 18:2), or do obeisance.

(see obeisance.

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The Bible exhorts us to “worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—Deuteronomy 4:24; Revelation 14:7.

Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2 pp 1200-1202
WORSHIP
One of the Hebrew words conveying the idea of worship (ʽa·vadhʹ) basically means “serve.” (Ge 14:4; 15:13; 29:15) Serving or worshiping Jehovah required obedience to all of his commands, doing his will as a person exclusively devoted to him. (Ex 19:5; De 30:15-20; Jos 24:14, 15) Therefore, for an individual to engage in any ritual or act of devotion toward any other gods signified his abandoning true worship.—De 11:13-17; Jg 3:6, 7.

Another Hebrew term that can denote worship is hish·ta·chawahʹ, which primarily means “bow down” (Ge 18:2), or do obeisance. (See OBEISANCE.) Whereas such bowing could at times simply be an act of respect or of courteous regard toward another person (Ge 19:1, 2; 33:1-6; 37:9, 10), it could also be an expression of worship, indicating one’s reverence and gratitude to God and submission to his will. When used with reference to the true God or false deities, the word hish·ta·chawahʹ is at times associated with sacrifice and prayer. (Ge 22:5-7; 24:26, 27; Isa 44:17) This would indicate that it was common to bow down when praying or offering sacrifice.—See PRAYER.

The Hebrew root sa·ghadhʹ (Isa 44:15, 17, 19; 46:6) basically signifies “prostrate oneself.” The Aramaic equivalent is usually associated with worship (Da 3:5-7, 10-15, 18, 28), but it is used at Daniel 2:46 to refer to King Nebuchadnezzar’s paying homage to Daniel, prostrating himself before the prophet.

As a father, I never required my children to worship me. I just wanted honor and respect. They never needed to thank me for every meal, clothing that I purchased for them, taking/picking them up from school and doctor visits, paying for their first automobile or their college tuition. They were never made to get on their knees and beg for forgiveness. Punishment was never used to make them see their wrongs, control them or instill fear.

Why does God need to be worshipped?

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Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......

by mickbobcat in

when i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.

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can anyone remember the big pink paradise book ?

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Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......

by mickbobcat in

when i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.

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mickbobcat
When I was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

Actually, the opposite is true! The pablum are the old books and congregation book studies that were written by Russell, Rutherford and Fred Frantz. Today, the Society has no choice but to dumb down their reading material.

Here is one congregation book study material that would never be studied today:

Impressive book study ( my first congregation book study ) in the 1970's about cherubs, flying swords, rotted bones and flesh, the fall of the United Nations, the fall of Christendom and the attack on the true religion, ''Jehovah's Witnesses.''

The book left no doubt that Armageddon was imminent and that only Jehovah's Witnesses would survive. It was scary to read that after surviving Armageddon, all surviving Jehovah's witnesses would have years of work, burying dead flesh and bones.

Today, you would see this book as just fantasy, unrealistic, far-fetched, make believe and completely foolish, with hyperbole claims.

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Cain and Abel...Who recorded this tragic event?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

3 the day came when cain brought a gift of the fruit of the ground to the lord.

4 but abel brought a gift of the first-born of his flocks and of the fat parts.

the lord showed favor to abel and his gift.

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3 The day came when Cain brought a gift of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. 4 But Abel brought a gift of the first-born of his flocks and of the fat parts. The Lord showed favor to Abel and his gift. 5 But He had no respect for Cain and his gift. So Cain became very angry and his face became sad. 6 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why are you looking down? 7 Will not your face be happy if you do well? If you do not do well, sin is waiting to destroy you. Its desire is to rule over you, but you must rule over it.”

8 Cain told this to his brother Abel. And when they were in the field, Cain stood up against his brother Abel and killed him.

9 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” And he said, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?” 10 The Lord said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to Me from the ground. 11 Now you are cursed because of the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer give its strength to you. You will always travel from place to place on the earth.”

Sometimes you stand back and you wonder how you ever believed any of these Bible stories. Genesis has direct quotes that Jehovah asks Cain about the whereabouts of Abel.

Who wrote down these quotes Jehovah and Cain spoke as they happened? When and where were they written down? Since ink and scrolls were not invented yet, how was this conversation recorded?

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Havent gone to the kingdom hall in ten years but may have to go back...

by Joliette in

made a big mistake of talking about being raised as a jehovah's witness to some old friends and family.

people have told me that i am still a jws even though i've never been baptized.

i'm in school for social services, dealing with student loan debt, and a lot of other debt.

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Joliette

Ian Dury had a song called ''Reasons to Be Cheerful'' 1,2,3

Something nice to study, PHONING up a buddy

The JUICE of the carrot, the SMILE of the parrot

Summer, BUDDY Holly, the WORKING folly

There are many things in life that can make you happy. Here is what you said on the reasons you hate about the Jehovah's Witnesses:

Yeah, I know it's a scam, most of the people there are crazy and brainwashed, bipolar, insane, sociopaths
I don't like the idea of being back in a cult
Even though I no longer believe it in do you guys think I'm crazy for this?
I'll probably will always disagree with it
That's the hold that this group has on people. It's all mind control. They basically own you forever.
I've realized that most of them were never really my friends. I know a lot of people at the KH aren't really my friends either.
I know its a lot of hidden agendas at the kingdom hall, I know how bipolar the people are, I know there's a lot of scam artist there

I made the mistake of returning to the Kingdom Hall after 8 years. I missed my family and found that the ''world'' had many faults and dangers. I tried to fit back in the Kingdom Hall but found more lies, backbiting, pounding of ''you're never good enough'', boring meetings, cliques, more rules that I disagreed with, false teachings and promises that never came true.

I QUIT AGAIN, 10 YEARS AGO. I HATED MYSELF FOR LYING TO MYSELF THAT I BELONGED AT THE MEETINGS, WHEN I KNEW I NEEDED TO GET OUT!

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What’s The Most Money You Have Made Gambling?

by minimus in

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friends

casino gambling?

keno games?

sports?

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I had a serious gambling problem 35 years ago. I would gamble on baseball, football and horse racing. The day before my wedding I went to the horse racing track and lost about $300. Weeks before that I lost $2500 on 3 football games. I didn't have the money and had to have my best friend get me a bank loan under his name. I eventually paid it off.

Sometimes I would be careless and leave losing horse race tickets in my car. My brother would borrow my car to take my mom and a group out in field service. They would discover the tickets and ask whose gambling tickets they belonged to. I would lie and blame it on my friend.

The most I ever won in one day was $2600 at the race track. I won a trifecta...4,3,9. I thought that after those winnings, gambling would be easy. I soon found out it wasn't. Sometimes I would lose my whole weeks paycheck in one day. On my wedding day I told myself that I had a gambling sickness and that I needed to stop. I haven't gambled since.

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What are the Society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

what are the society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?.

are there specific rules or watchtower articles that must be followed?.

i have been to three different wakes/funerals where a disfellowshipped person attended with different results.. 1. ten years ago my first cousin passed away.

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The Bethelite
I guess I don't know because when my inactive father died my JW sister never bothered to call me to let me know of his passing.

How did you find out about your dad's passing?

Have you spoken to your sister since?